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<interview>
  <date>Autumn 2004</date>
  <location>Las Vegas, USA</location>
  <who email="rubys@apache.org">Sam Ruby</who>

  <transcript tape="c4tape0201.01.Sub.02">
    <question>How do you get people involved?</question>
    <summary>Ownership is the key</summary>
    <answer time="00:20:21:04">
Not one simple answer.
Getting people engaged.
Not trying to do everything yourself.
Leave a large part undone.
Encourage people to fix it.
Even if yourself wouldn't have fixed this way, at least
they will start to participate.
    </answer>
  </transcript>
</interview>
